Sunday, May 22, 2016

#Scriptchat Transcript Barri Evins @BigBigIdeas - Theme, Structure, Outlining May 22, 2016

Tonight's guest was producer Barri Evins @BigBigIdeas talking theme, structure and outlining. Storify site wasn't working, so I had to copy the transcript from Twitter. To read, please scroll down to the bottom and read backwards. If the site starts working, I'll grab an easier transcript to read. Apologies! @jeannevb

REMINDER: Next week, there's no chat due to Memorial Day.


 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 34m34 minutes ago
Last pice of advice - structure is right there at the end of your arm. stretch out your right arm, point fingers up: screenplay! #scriptchat
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 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 34m34 minutes ago
Thanks for joining us, everyone. Any future topic ideas, feel free to message me! Grabbing the transcript now... #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 J Gideon Sarantinos ‏@jgsarantinos 34m34 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas @jeannevb #scriptchat tequila looks like water
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 34m34 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas @jeannevb you are so welcome back any time. #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 35m35 minutes ago

@jeannevb @jgsarantinos @BigBigIdeas Traditions matter #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 35m35 minutes ago
@jeannevb @BigBigIdeas SO flattered to be here. except for the spelling stress! thx of the good questions #scriptchat
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 Elena ‏@CatOfDarkComedy 35m35 minutes ago
Thank you all for the wonderful advice & your time chatting! #scriptchat @jeannevb @BigBigIdeas
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 David A. Youngquist ‏@Al_1701 35m35 minutes ago
Good night everybody. #scriptchat
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In reply to J Gideon Sarantinos
 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 35m35 minutes ago
@jgsarantinos tequila is the official drink :) @BigBigIdeas #scriptchat
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 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 35m35 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas many thanks for fielding our questions #scriptchat
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 Sarah Newman ‏@SarahAlexis4 35m35 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas Thanks for being here. All the best with the book! #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 36m36 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas thanks so much for your perspectives and advice! #scriptchat
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 J Gideon Sarantinos ‏@jgsarantinos 36m36 minutes ago
@jeannevb @BigBigIdeas #scriptchat water I hope?
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 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 36m36 minutes ago
HBO Exec Chris Salvaterra dishes career/writing advice. #scriptchat #screenwriting http://www.scriptmag.com/features/hbo-chris-salvattera-business-of-screenwriting …

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In reply to Barri Evins
 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 36m36 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas If it wasn't for that, you'd get the book done in only one month! #scriptchat
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In reply to Jeanne V Bowerman
 David A. Youngquist ‏@Al_1701 36m36 minutes ago
@jeannevb @BigBigIdeas Most of us. Never touch the stuff myself. #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 36m36 minutes ago
@jeannevb @BigBigIdeas Dang - you did not tell med that JVB. On my way to dinner and Hookah bar now! #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 37m37 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas this is why we drink while we chat. :) #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 37m37 minutes ago
wow that went fast - but given how clumsy a typist I am, I nearly broke a sweat. #scriptchat
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 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 37m37 minutes ago
NO #scriptchat next week. Happy Memorial Day!
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 Tamawil ‏@Tamawil 38m38 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas @Tamawil thank you. sorry for the retweet. >_< #scriptchat
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 Tamawil ‏@Tamawil 38m38 minutes ago
@bigbigideas Would practicing on short scripts help hone theme, structure, and outlining? #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 38m38 minutes ago
@Tamawil @BigBigIdeas I think it could be a good way to build muscle. #scriptchat
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 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 38m38 minutes ago
Our #scriptchat topic/guest schedule is here: http://scriptchat.blogspot.com/p/chat-topic-schedule.html … #bookmarkit
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Adrienne Aiken ‏@AdrienneAiken 38m38 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas @blueneumann like query letters! Haha #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 38m38 minutes ago
@JLalliWriter yes essentially, pinch is a significant plot point that indicates shift in hero, arc, stakes, tone, escalation #scriptchat
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In reply to J Gideon Sarantinos
 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 39m39 minutes ago
@jgsarantinos I do that. I also do a lot of icons and so on for stuff like music, action, etc... #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 39m39 minutes ago
@Al_1701 Great set u pis lean, everything there for a reason. And theme is there too. #scriptchat
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In reply to David A. Youngquist
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 40m40 minutes ago
@Al_1701 @blueneumann @jgsarantinos yes, inciting incident, torque in goal of hero, tonal shift - a escalation + higher stakes #scriptchat
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 David A. Youngquist ‏@Al_1701 40m40 minutes ago
Like Act 1 is introducing us to characters and setting, and then comes the main conflict to signal Act 2 starts. #scriptchat
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In reply to Chris Neumann
 J Gideon Sarantinos ‏@jgsarantinos 40m40 minutes ago
@blueneumann #scriptchat u can also color code for each plot line.
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In reply to Chris Neumann
 Adrienne Aiken ‏@AdrienneAiken 40m40 minutes ago
@blueneumann @BigBigIdeas yeah - but in my case, currently full 90 min #scriptchat
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 Joanne Lalli ‏@JLalliWriter 40m40 minutes ago
Joanne Lalli Retweeted Barri Evins
Pinch = plot point? #scriptchat
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Barri Evins @BigBigIdeas
@blueneumann @jgsarantinos Act 1, Act 2: 1st pinch, midpoint, second pinch, Act 3 #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 41m41 minutes ago
@AdrienneAiken @BigBigIdeas @blueneumann synopses suck - good way for people to get out of reading your work but necessary evil #scriptchat
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 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 41m41 minutes ago
For all the TV I watch, you'd think I'd have figured this out by osmosis by now #scriptchat
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 David A. Youngquist ‏@Al_1701 41m41 minutes ago
@blueneumann @jgsarantinos I would think acts change when there has been a major shakeup in story what it's doing. #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 42m42 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas But what if I want to bust that myth? Let me Adam Savage that stuff. #scriptchat
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In reply to Chris Neumann
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 42m42 minutes ago
@blueneumann @jgsarantinos Act 1, Act 2: 1st pinch, midpoint, second pinch, Act 3 #scriptchat
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 Adrienne Aiken ‏@AdrienneAiken 42m42 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas @blueneumann I agree, totally! But for example, some contests ask for short description of acts.. so have to define #scriptchat
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In reply to J Gideon Sarantinos
 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 43m43 minutes ago
@jgsarantinos Yeah, one per scene, thinking how to group them into acts, you know? #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 43m43 minutes ago
@blueneumann great to lean what works well for you. Just many #s you learn online are myths. Like the 25 word LL> #scriptchat
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 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 43m43 minutes ago
I'd just like a framework to test, see if it works. The 70 works well for me w/ movies and 5-act structure #scriptchat
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 J Gideon Sarantinos ‏@jgsarantinos 43m43 minutes ago
@blueneumann #scriptchat based on 1 per scene
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 Adrienne Aiken ‏@AdrienneAiken 44m44 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas no, 90 min.... Some places say 5 acts for tv.... or 4 + teaser...#scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 44m44 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas @AdrienneAiken and you mean full 30 and 60, not 22 and 45 like in the states, right? #scriptchat
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In reply to Chris Neumann
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 44m44 minutes ago
@blueneumann I think it's what you need to get your story structured. Numbers can be arbitrary. #scriptchat
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In reply to Chris Neumann
 Chris Hadley ‏@filmwritr4 44m44 minutes ago
@blueneumann I've never thought about that. #scriptchat
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 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 45m45 minutes ago
I'm actually curious how many index cards are needed for an hour-long (or half hour) show. I've heard 70 for features, though #scriptchat
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In reply to Chris Hadley
 David A. Youngquist ‏@Al_1701 45m45 minutes ago
@filmwritr4 @BigBigIdeas @jeannevb They can be convenient for spacing your peaks and valleys. #scriptchat
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In reply to Adrienne Aiken
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 45m45 minutes ago
@AdrienneAiken hour long? 1/2 hour? #scriptchat
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In reply to Dena Smith
 Christopher Phillips ‏@byChrisPhillips 45m45 minutes ago
@dramseysmith14 @byChrisPhillips @BigBigIdeas Not all are perfect, but you can learn a lot in a writing group #scriptchat
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In reply to Adrienne Aiken
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 45m45 minutes ago
@AdrienneAiken Not familiar enough with specific but you still need a three act structure - it may be broken up into more pieces #scriptchat
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In reply to David A. Youngquist
 Chris Hadley ‏@filmwritr4 46m46 minutes ago
@Al_1701 @BigBigIdeas @jeannevb I know! :) #scriptchat
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 Adrienne Aiken ‏@AdrienneAiken 46m46 minutes ago
OK, so re TV series. I'm in the UK. So there's BBC (no ad breaks) & all else. What's the view on act structure + incl. teaser? #scriptchat
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In reply to Dena Smith
 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 46m46 minutes ago
@dramseysmith14 finding a #screenwriting group is great to keep you motivated, writing & improving @byChrisPhillips #scriptchat
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In reply to Chris Hadley
 David A. Youngquist ‏@Al_1701 47m47 minutes ago
@filmwritr4 @BigBigIdeas @jeannevb Prepare for commerical breaks. #scriptchat
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In reply to Adrienne Aiken
 Doctor Oddity ‏@DoctorOddity 47m47 minutes ago
@AdrienneAiken what's the Q? #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Chris Hadley ‏@filmwritr4 47m47 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas @jeannevb Thanks so much! Any tips on outlining for TV? #scriptchat
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In reply to Adrienne Aiken
 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 47m47 minutes ago
@AdrienneAiken feel free to ask again. It's easy to miss a question #scriptchat
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 Dena Smith ‏@dramseysmith14 47m47 minutes ago
@byChrisPhillips @BigBigIdeas Taken a few classes and have read a ton of books and scripts, but no groups yet. #scriptchat
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 Adrienne Aiken ‏@AdrienneAiken 48m48 minutes ago
I don't feel I really got an answer re my acts question (unless I missed it?) #scriptchat
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 Leslie ‏@SoCalScriptShop 48m48 minutes ago
Here's what you won't learn at a $400 weekend seminar: there is no advice better than reading spec scripts. #scriptchat
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In reply to Adrienne Aiken
 Chris Hadley ‏@filmwritr4 48m48 minutes ago
@AdrienneAiken Doing great. I had a wonderful time over the weekend at my sister's wedding. It was beautiful in every way. #scriptchat
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In reply to Chris Hadley
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 48m48 minutes ago
@filmwritr4 @jeannevb @BigBigIdeas Here's the deal - they are all interconnected - must all be there in successful story #scriptchat
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 Elena ‏@CatOfDarkComedy 48m48 minutes ago
Joooiiiiin us! #scriptchat
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 Chris Hadley ‏@filmwritr4 49m49 minutes ago
@jeannevb @BigBigIdeas Like, would you do one by character arc? #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 49m49 minutes ago

@dramseysmith14 @BigBigIdeas June 10-12 in LA. Tiki Bar Seminar Info: http://bit.ly/1XxJoOz  Pic: http://bit.ly/24yOiwK  #scriptchat
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 LindaScarlett ‏@ZotBakingCo 49m49 minutes ago
Thank you for all the great information tonight!!! : ) #scriptchat
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In reply to Jeanne V Bowerman
 Chris Hadley ‏@filmwritr4 49m49 minutes ago
@jeannevb @BigBigIdeas In terms of structuring an outline, would you suggest a trad beat outline or by character stories? #scriptchat
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In reply to Chris Hadley
 Adrienne Aiken ‏@AdrienneAiken 49m49 minutes ago
@filmwritr4 *waves back* good thanks. You? #scriptchat
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 Elena ‏@CatOfDarkComedy 49m49 minutes ago
Where are you located? Where can I catch one of your seminars in person? #scriptchat @BigBigIdeas
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 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 50m50 minutes ago
15 more minutes with @BigBigIdeas. Tonight's topic: Theme, structure & outlining #scriptchat
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 Doctor Oddity ‏@DoctorOddity 50m50 minutes ago
so..theme.... #scriptchat
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 Dena Smith ‏@dramseysmith14 50m50 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas I might be your new student then.  #scriptchat
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In reply to Chris Hadley
 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 50m50 minutes ago
@filmwritr4 @byChrisPhillips hey fellow Chris. You're late. #scriptchat
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In reply to Dena Smith
 Christopher Phillips ‏@byChrisPhillips 50m50 minutes ago
@dramseysmith14 @BigBigIdeas Have you looked for http://Meetup.com  screenwriting groups in your area? #scriptchat
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 Chris Hadley ‏@filmwritr4 51m51 minutes ago
@blueneumann @ByChrisPhillips Hey! *waves* How are you guys? #scriptchat
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 Chris Hadley ‏@filmwritr4 51m51 minutes ago
@AdrienneAiken Hey Adrienne! *waves* How are you? #scriptchat
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 Adrienne Aiken ‏@AdrienneAiken 51m51 minutes ago
HI @filmwritr4 #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 51m51 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas @dramseysmith14 @DoctorOddity @byChrisPhillips pros are smart, facile but willing to work hard, eager 4 feedback #scriptchat
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In reply to Jeanne V Bowerman
 Chris Hadley ‏@filmwritr4 51m51 minutes ago
@jeannevb @DoctorOddity Thanks for having @BigBigIdeas on tonight's chat! I'll try to read the transcript myself. #scriptchat
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 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 51m51 minutes ago
Did the chat just die down or is it just me? #scriptchat
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 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 52m52 minutes ago
@DoctorOddity chat every Sunday@ 5pm PT for an hour. Been doing it since 2009. Transcripts are all here: http://scriptchat.com  #scriptchat
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 Chris Hadley ‏@filmwritr4 52m52 minutes ago
Hey guys, sorry I'm late. How's everyone? Great to see @BigBigIdeas here. Welcome! *waves* #scriptchat
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 Doctor Oddity ‏@DoctorOddity 53m53 minutes ago
Also i'm sorry for stumbling into this chat #scriptchat
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In reply to Dena Smith
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 53m53 minutes ago
@dramseysmith14 @BigBigIdeas Big Ideas seminar comes with 6 months of mentorship. i believe in mentorship feedback is essential #scriptchat
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 Dena Smith ‏@dramseysmith14 54m54 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas I need a mentor.been figuring out a lot of stuff on my own. #scriptchat
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 Michael Herst ‏@mherst1014 54m54 minutes ago
BEHIND THE LINES WITH @byDougRich: #Screenwriting Advice - Asked & Answered @scriptmag http://bit.ly/1UG1eP3  #scriptchat
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In reply to Christopher Phillips
 Doctor Oddity ‏@DoctorOddity 54m54 minutes ago
@byChrisPhillips @DoctorOddity @BigBigIdeas Thanks for the link #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 55m55 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas @dramseysmith14 pros never have to thing about fundamentals - it's ingrained. also have great film vocabularies #scriptchat
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In reply to Doctor Oddity
 Christopher Phillips ‏@byChrisPhillips 55m55 minutes ago
@DoctorOddity @BigBigIdeas http://bigbigideas.com/my-story/  #scriptchat
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In reply to Dena Smith
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 55m55 minutes ago
@dramseysmith14 @BigBigIdeas I've been fortunate to work with Oscar nominees as well as newbies. #scriptchat
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 Doctor Oddity ‏@DoctorOddity 56m56 minutes ago
I apologize @BigbigIdeas but I don't know most of the content you have produced where can I watch it? #scriptchat
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 Sarah Newman ‏@SarahAlexis4 56m56 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas Q: Thoughts on how to choose one's next project from a list of ideas, especially from your POV as a producer? #scriptchat
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 Dena Smith ‏@dramseysmith14 56m56 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas Just want to know who you could recommend that comments on their process and is willing to be helpful. If anyone? #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 57m57 minutes ago
@jeannevb @BigBigIdeas I'm about starting on a single page with header on top then expanding. grasp the basics & use post its #scriptchat
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 Douglas Eboch ‏@dougeboch 57m57 minutes ago
Do you have to live in LA to be a #screenwriter? I address the question in my latest blog post. http://letsschmooze.blogspot.com/2016/05/do-you-have-to-live-in-los-angeles.html?spref=tw … #scriptchat
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 Dena Smith ‏@dramseysmith14 57m57 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas Which writers do you know that seem to have a smooth process for getting stories off the ground? #scriptchat
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 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 58m58 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas how about some outlining tips? Index cards, bulletin board, color-coding? How do you get writers organized? #scriptchat
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In reply to Elena
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 58m58 minutes ago
@CatOfDarkComedy @BigBigIdeas Thank you. Can't wait to get back to it. So much done already. #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 59m59 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas @DoctorOddity concept > theme > character > arc > structure That's the big giveaway here for building stories #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Elena ‏@CatOfDarkComedy 59m59 minutes ago
@BigBigIdeas Cool! Good luck on that! :) #scriptchat
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In reply to Elena
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 60m60 minutes ago
@CatOfDarkComedy @BigBigIdeas Will be taking two months off this year to finish the book. Outline all done! #scriptchat
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 Chris Posen ‏@ChrisPosen 1h1 hour ago
Don't just wish upon a star. Reach for it. #winning #writingprompts #writing #filmmaking #scriptchat #dreams #goals

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In reply to Barri Evins
 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas You just have to read the stuff so you want it to be good #scriptchat
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In reply to Doctor Oddity
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@DoctorOddity S'ok read all about me - I"m charming! #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Elena ‏@CatOfDarkComedy 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas Very cool, I'll have to read that when it's released. Is it released? Thank you. :) #scriptchat
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In reply to Doctor Oddity
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@DoctorOddity @BigBigIdeas I am not a screenwriter. I am a producer who loves story and loves working with writers #scriptchat
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 Doctor Oddity ‏@DoctorOddity 1h1 hour ago
sorry for the questions #scriptchat
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 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 1h1 hour ago
Also for any of you lurking in #scriptchat tonight... speak up! We don't bite! ...hard.
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In reply to Leslie
 David A. Youngquist ‏@Al_1701 1h1 hour ago
@SoCalScriptShop Plot -> philosophy? How would you even do that? And why? #scriptchat
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In reply to Doctor Oddity
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@DoctorOddity @BigBigIdeas http://bigbigideas.com/my-story/  #scriptchat
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 Doctor Oddity ‏@DoctorOddity 1h1 hour ago
has @bigbigideas written a script I could read? #scriptchat
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 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 1h1 hour ago
I learned the value of structure in a college essay writing class. Why didn't they teach me that in HIGH SCHOOL!? #scriptchat
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In reply to Doctor Oddity
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@DoctorOddity @BigBigIdeas http://gallery.mailchimp.com/ac0e341bea6fdf5a41177db37/files/Barri_Evins_credits_logos_3.13.pdf … #scriptchat
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 Leslie ‏@SoCalScriptShop 1h1 hour ago
For anyone lurking on #scriptchat tonight--also beware of retrofitting a plot into a philosophy. Works in novels, not scripts.
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In reply to Elena
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@CatOfDarkComedy @BigBigIdeas I am writing a book on story & used my structure template. Even outline my @scriptmag columns #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Elena ‏@CatOfDarkComedy 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas Thank you :) #scriptchat
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 Doctor Oddity ‏@DoctorOddity 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas for us that dont know you #scriptchat
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 Doctor Oddity ‏@DoctorOddity 1h1 hour ago
@bigbigideas can you talk about what you've done #scriptchat
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In reply to Elena
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@CatOfDarkComedy @BigBigIdeas I am a producer using what I have learned from eons in development and setting up projects. BUT #scriptchat
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 David A. Youngquist ‏@Al_1701 1h1 hour ago
Theme also helps make sure your beats connect with each other and how, right? #scriptchat
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 Elena ‏@CatOfDarkComedy 1h1 hour ago
How do structure your own personal outline before writing? #scriptchat @BigBigIdeas
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In reply to Jeanne V Bowerman
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@jeannevb @BigBigIdeas those 5 beats are the spine of the story, arc of the character, illustration of how they change = theme #scriptchat
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 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 1h1 hour ago
.@BigBigIdeas has a great column on @scriptmag here: http://www.scriptmag.com/author/barrievins/ … Tons of insights & tips. #scriptchat
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In reply to Doctor Oddity
 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 1h1 hour ago
@DoctorOddity Any of it helpful? #scriptchat
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 Doctor Oddity ‏@DoctorOddity 1h1 hour ago
so many people giving advice. #scriptchat
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In reply to Chris Neumann
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@blueneumann Bravo! #scriptchat
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In reply to Jeanne V Bowerman
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@jeannevb @BigBigIdeas I'm looking for the 5 big beats and if they work #scriptchat
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 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 1h1 hour ago
I've said it before, I took all my old ideas and stripped 'em down, discovered real interesting things about my process #scriptchat
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 Dena Smith ‏@dramseysmith14 1h1 hour ago
@blueneumann @Al_1701 Don't know, because those aren't my kind of movies, but I can ask my son when he's done skating. #scriptchat #nmkom
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In reply to Jeanne V Bowerman
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@jeannevb @BigBigIdeas there are times you can make a script "more better" but often you gotta go from the ground up #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas @SarahAlexis4 Ain't nothin' wrong with a system reboot! #scriptchat
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In reply to J Gideon Sarantinos
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@jgsarantinos fits with the jaws example - fearful, fearless, respectful fear of the water #scriptchat
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 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas let's talk a bit about rewrites & how you tackle structure problems to get a script back on track #scriptchat
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 Hamish Dwyer ‏@HamishD10 1h1 hour ago
#scriptchat Which would be good examples of memorable subplots?
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 J Gideon Sarantinos ‏@jgsarantinos 1h1 hour ago
#scriptchat u can think of theme as a debate topic and each char explores it differently.
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In reply to Sarah Newman
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@SarahAlexis4 @BigBigIdeas big one. I say strip it down to the bare bones. then start from the ground up #scriptchat
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In reply to Jeanne V Bowerman
 Christopher Phillips ‏@byChrisPhillips 1h1 hour ago
@jeannevb @BigBigIdeas Yes. Subplots are often reflections of the main theme... #scriptchat
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In reply to Chris Neumann
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@blueneumann I think that can work. It depends on if that thinking works for you #scriptchat
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In reply to Doctor Oddity
 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 1h1 hour ago
@DoctorOddity @Al_1701 @dramseysmith14 "America is awesome. How awesome? THIS awesome!" #scriptchat
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 Sarah Newman ‏@SarahAlexis4 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas Q: Thoughts on how to diagnose & remedy the problem(s) with a structure that just isn't working in a screenplay? #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas re: Mr. Bay #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
BOOM! CUT CUT CUT BOOM! $$$ #scriptchat
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 Adrienne Aiken ‏@AdrienneAiken 1h1 hour ago
@blueneumann: @jeannevb @BigBigIdeas @jgsarantinos The neverending burden of creative impulse. #scriptchat Quite! As in 1.25am for starters!
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 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 1h1 hour ago
Any thought to the idea that creativity is problem solving, so the theme could be a question? #scriptchat
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 David A. Youngquist ‏@Al_1701 1h1 hour ago
@blueneumann @dramseysmith14 Military worship, hot chicks, explosions, juvenile behavior, and inappropriate behavior. #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@dramseysmith14 look at the work of great writers & big movie stars who can choose their project & you often see recurring theme #scriptchat
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In reply to Chris Neumann
 Doctor Oddity ‏@DoctorOddity 1h1 hour ago
@blueneumann @Al_1701 @dramseysmith14 Adventure! #scriptchat
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In reply to David A. Youngquist
 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 1h1 hour ago
@Al_1701 @dramseysmith14 What would you say Michael Bay's theme is? #scriptchat
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In reply to Chris Neumann
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@blueneumann @jeannevb @BigBigIdeas @jgsarantinos Creative impulse great. But it needs to channeled to construct a screenplay #scriptchat
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In reply to Dena Smith
 David A. Youngquist ‏@Al_1701 1h1 hour ago
@dramseysmith14 Seems to work for Michael Bay. #scriptchat
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In reply to Dena Smith
 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 1h1 hour ago
@dramseysmith14 I'm worried it's hard not to do that. #scriptchat
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 Dena Smith ‏@dramseysmith14 1h1 hour ago
I've always thought you could make a career out of proving the same theme, over and over again, just dress it up differently. #scriptchat
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In reply to Jeanne V Bowerman
 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 1h1 hour ago
@jeannevb @BigBigIdeas @jgsarantinos The neverending burden of creative impulse. #scriptchat
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In reply to Jeanne V Bowerman
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@jeannevb @BigBigIdeas @jgsarantinos and if you do... please move out of the house and stop mooching off me! #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@jeannevb @BigBigIdeas @jgsarantinos A big piece of life advice JVB #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 J Gideon Sarantinos ‏@jgsarantinos 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas #scriptchat know your truth.
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In reply to Sarah Newman
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@SarahAlexis4 @BigBigIdeas People jumping in before ready. Unfocused stories. Stories that don't have the essential elements #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas @jgsarantinos Me to kids: "Don't be a writer. And if you do, god help you." :) #scriptchat
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 Doctor Oddity ‏@DoctorOddity 1h1 hour ago
some Loglines-genre nets: spectre of dead child rapist haunts the children of parents who murdered him, killing in their dreams. #scriptchat
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 Adrienne Aiken ‏@AdrienneAiken 1h1 hour ago
@CatOfDarkComedy @BigBigIdeas I would. Creative = Creator. I create my world (s) #scriptchat
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In reply to J Gideon Sarantinos
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@jgsarantinos To students w/kids: if you were never going to see them again & give only 1 piece of advice what would you say? #scriptchat
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 Sarah Newman ‏@SarahAlexis4 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas Q: In what ways/what "missteps" do you most often see muddle the theme and/or structure along the writing process? #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas @DoctorOddity thanks! it came to me after one of these #scriptchat sessions, actually!
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In reply to J Gideon Sarantinos
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@jgsarantinos I like that. But it has to be wisdom you believe in. #scriptchat
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 Elena ‏@CatOfDarkComedy 1h1 hour ago
Would you consider writing a story like creating a universe all your own? @BigBigIdeas #scriptchat
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In reply to Sarah Newman
 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 1h1 hour ago
@SarahAlexis4 you are definitely a fellow #treeforter #scriptchat
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In reply to Chris Neumann
 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago

@blueneumann @DoctorOddity nice metaphor. a little *egdy* #scriptchat
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 J Gideon Sarantinos ‏@jgsarantinos 1h1 hour ago
#scriptchat i once heard theme defined as the wisdom of the story.
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 Sarah Newman ‏@SarahAlexis4 1h1 hour ago
@jeannevb Only because you and the other treefort folks give us this opportunity to ask questions! :) #scriptchat
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In reply to Doctor Oddity
 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 1h1 hour ago
@DoctorOddity I like the idea of logline as a samurai sword: the movie refined to the sharpest, most elegant, effective form #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
Great LL is hero, flaw, conflict, stakes and IMPLIES theme, #scriptchat
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In reply to Chris Neumann
 LindaScarlett ‏@ZotBakingCo 1h1 hour ago
@blueneumann @ZotBakingCo @jeannevb @BigBigIdeas It helps me think. : ) #scriptchat
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In reply to Doctor Oddity
 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 1h1 hour ago
@DoctorOddity a good logline shows a lot more than just genre. It's about character, conflict & what they have to overcome #scriptchat
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 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 1h1 hour ago
@ZotBakingCo @jeannevb @BigBigIdeas Interesting, I haven't heard 8 acts before #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas That should very cool. Whatever helps you visualize! #scriptchat
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 Doctor Oddity ‏@DoctorOddity 1h1 hour ago
Logine is more for genre than Theme #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
I make students refine the header until they really know their story. Then move to big plot points, major plot points. #scriptchat
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 LindaScarlett ‏@ZotBakingCo 1h1 hour ago
@jeannevb @BigBigIdeas I have a six foot white board in my office. I have it broken into 8 acts with my theme across the top. #scriptchat
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In reply to Sarah Newman
 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 1h1 hour ago
@SarahAlexis4 @CatOfDarkComedy Sarah is the question queen :) #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
Yes, @jeannevb, there is a logline there too! #scriptchat
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 Sarah Newman ‏@SarahAlexis4 1h1 hour ago
@CatOfDarkComedy Thank you :) #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
I do subscribe tot he theory that we hear the theme or the antithesis of it early in Act 1. We establish the heart of the story #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas a lot of people also stick a logline somewhere to always refer to #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
The headers is genre, tone, character, arc and theme. So you never lose site of them #scriptchat
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 Elena ‏@CatOfDarkComedy 1h1 hour ago
.@SarahAlexis4 @BigBigIdeas I really like this question. #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
At the top is a header that will pop up no matter how many pages you add. #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
My Big Ideas Seminar Students learn structure, watch structure then get a template to work on their new idea. #scriptchat
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 J Gideon Sarantinos ‏@jgsarantinos 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas #scriptchat it should given that it should involve an interaction with the main char.
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 dody ‏@dody_dodaaa 1h1 hour ago
#scriptchat how to keep surprises in script while we are writing?
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 Sarah Newman ‏@SarahAlexis4 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas Q: After completing a 1st draft, how do you suggest mining for areas where theme & structure can be strengthened? #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Elena ‏@CatOfDarkComedy 1h1 hour ago
What do you do when you 'pre-write,' @BigBigIdeas? What are some of the techniques you use? #scriptchat Thank you. :)
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
Wow - no one is going to go for my simple formula - tie it all together??? #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
Sublot can also illuminate an aspect of the theme #scriptchat
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 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas So when it comes to structure, are you a beat-sheet fan? Writing a quick synopsis? Tips for staying focused? #scriptchat
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 Elena ‏@CatOfDarkComedy 1h1 hour ago
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Gotcha! ;-) #scriptchat
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Barri Evins @BigBigIdeas
If you are working on structure or outline and you're telling me the color of their shirt--you not seeing the big picture. #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
Yes #jeannevb #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
YES - I say *pre-writing* all the time! #scriptchat
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 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas great to carry over themes into subplots too #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
If you are working on structure or outline and you're telling me the color of their shirt--you not seeing the big picture. #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
I think structure is the big steal beams - the foundation. #scriptchat
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 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 1h1 hour ago
@rdlln @BigBigIdeas This. You need to spend time on the pre-writing! #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 J Gideon Sarantinos ‏@jgsarantinos 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas #scriptchat but it's still the one theme. it's messy if ur exploring fear and forgiveness or love in the same film.
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 Doctor Oddity ‏@DoctorOddity 1h1 hour ago
Some people think I'm funny and enjoyable @blueneumann #scriptchat
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 R.D. ‏@rdlln 1h1 hour ago
I figure out the moral premise early on in the prewriting stage @BigBigIdeas #scriptchat
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 Elena ‏@CatOfDarkComedy 1h1 hour ago
How technical & structured do you get when creating the bones of your story? Are you very detail oriented? #scriptchat @BigBigIdeas
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In reply to Barri Evins
 J Gideon Sarantinos ‏@jgsarantinos 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas #scriptchat it prob means you haven't nailed what ur story is about.
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
But it i still the same theme. #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
Yes, variations. For instance in JAWS the three main characters echo different perspectives on the same theme: fear #scriptchat
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 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas there can be VARIATIONS on a theme, I think, but that's probably it. #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Elena ‏@CatOfDarkComedy 1h1 hour ago
I love this. #scriptchat @BigBigIdeas
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In reply to Doctor Oddity
 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 1h1 hour ago
@DoctorOddity Are you just going to be quoting that movie all night? #scriptchat
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 Doctor Oddity ‏@DoctorOddity 1h1 hour ago
"he says that we have to realize that we all write in a genre, and we must find our originality within that genre." #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
I think a script with multiple themes would be tricky to pull off successfully and less impactful if you did. #scriptchat
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 Tamawil ‏@Tamawil 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas con't: that you enjoyed? #scriptchat
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 David A. Youngquist ‏@Al_1701 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas Theme informs how the work is structured and the structure is used to build the outline. Right? #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
Theme should be meaningful to you. In my seminar, we figure out every writer's personal thematic, the message that drives them. #scriptchat
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In reply to Doctor Oddity
 Sarah Newman ‏@SarahAlexis4 1h1 hour ago
@DoctorOddity I love that quote from Adaptation. :) #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Tamawil ‏@Tamawil 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas Have you ever had a script with multiple themes? #scriptchat
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In reply to David A. Youngquist
 Tamawil ‏@Tamawil 1h1 hour ago
@Al_1701 Thank you! #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
OK want to see how all these pieces fit together? #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
Think about your all time favorite movies. The reason you love them is bcs they speak to you, resonate with you, it's the theme #scriptchat
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 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 1h1 hour ago
@Al_1701 @AdrienneAiken I agree. Sometimes the whole season of a show will be structured (Game Of Thrones is a big example) #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
Theme should be specific. #scriptchat
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 Doctor Oddity ‏@DoctorOddity 1h1 hour ago
To begin... To begin... How to start? I'm hungry. I should get coffee. Coffee would help me think. #scriptchat
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 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 1h1 hour ago
For late arrivers, we're talking with @BIgBigIdeas (Barri Evins) about theme, outlining & structure. #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 1h1 hour ago
TV is different from film, formats have different requirements. But still beginning middle end #scriptchat
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 Elena ‏@CatOfDarkComedy 1h1 hour ago
How vague or specific should a story theme be in your experience? @BigBigIdeas #scriptchat
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In reply to Adrienne Aiken
 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 1h1 hour ago
@AdrienneAiken Netflix shows get a bit leisurely, but I like having things move along at a nice, even pace #scriptchat
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 David A. Youngquist ‏@Al_1701 1h1 hour ago
@blueneumann @AdrienneAiken I think it goes with peaks and valleys in the actions. #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 J Gideon Sarantinos ‏@jgsarantinos 1h1 hour ago
@BigBigIdeas #scriptchat you'd be surprised. some writers think the theme will emerge during writing.
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 R.D. ‏@rdlln 1h1 hour ago
@DoctorOddity outlining, structure #scriptchat
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 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 2h2 hours ago
Just a reminder, the easiest site to chat from is here: http://www.tchat.io/rooms/scriptchat … Auto-adds the hashtag. #scriptchat
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In reply to Adrienne Aiken
 Chris Neumann ‏@blueneumann 2h2 hours ago
@AdrienneAiken I'm real curious how structure works (or tricks regarding it) in no-commercial-break works. #scriptchat
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 David A. Youngquist ‏@Al_1701 2h2 hours ago
Forget the "take". #scriptchat
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 Adrienne Aiken ‏@AdrienneAiken 2h2 hours ago
Hi, so re TV series. I'm in the UK. So there's BBC (no ad breaks) & all else. What's the view on act structure + incl. teaser? #scriptchat
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 David A. Youngquist ‏@Al_1701 2h2 hours ago
@BigBigIdeas You can't take? #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 2h2 hours ago
How can you outline when you don't know what you want to say? #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 2h2 hours ago
YES #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 2h2 hours ago
What you know about the human condition and believe is important #scriptchat
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 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 2h2 hours ago
@bigbigideas in terms of process, do you consider your theme before starting the outline? #scriptchat
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 J Gideon Sarantinos ‏@jgsarantinos 2h2 hours ago
hey y'all #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 2h2 hours ago
Yes, theme is the message, what you want to say, the universal appeal, what you the writer want to convey with your story. #scriptchat
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 Doctor Oddity ‏@DoctorOddity 2h2 hours ago
#theme is? #scriptchat
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 Elena ‏@CatOfDarkComedy 2h2 hours ago
Hey everyone! #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 David A. Youngquist ‏@Al_1701 2h2 hours ago
@BigBigIdeas Isn't the theme the overarching the idea of the work? #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 2h2 hours ago
@BigBigIdeas let’s get the ball rolling! #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 2h2 hours ago
Lions and tigers and bears! But in this case theme, structure and outlining are almost all one thing. #scriptchat
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 Dena Smith ‏@dramseysmith14 2h2 hours ago
Hi everyone #scriptchat
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In reply to Tamawil
 Sarah Newman ‏@SarahAlexis4 2h2 hours ago
@Tamawil Welcome! #scriptchat
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 David A. Youngquist ‏@Al_1701 2h2 hours ago
Theme, structure, and outline. Fun. #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 2h2 hours ago
Warning: great talker. terrible typist! #scriptchat
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 Doctor Oddity ‏@DoctorOddity 2h2 hours ago
sweet app #scriptchat
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 2h2 hours ago
My FIRST TOO. #scriptchat
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 Tamawil ‏@Tamawil 2h2 hours ago
Hello! My first #scriptchat. Hope everyone is well tonight.
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 2h2 hours ago
Thanks for joining us! Gotta question? #scriptchat
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 Sarah Newman ‏@SarahAlexis4 2h2 hours ago
@BigBigIdeas Welcome! Thanks for joining us. #scriptchat
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In reply to Barri Evins
 David A. Youngquist ‏@Al_1701 2h2 hours ago
@BigBigIdeas Hey #scriptchat
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 Sarah Newman ‏@SarahAlexis4 2h2 hours ago
Time for #scriptchat with guest @BigBigIdeas talking theme, structure, outlining.
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 Barri Evins ‏@BigBigIdeas 2h2 hours ago
Howdy script chatters! #scriptchat
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 Jeanne V Bowerman ‏@jeannevb 2h2 hours ago
IT’S #SCRIPTCHAT O'CLOCK w/ @BigBigIdeas talking theme, structure, outlining. Chat here: http://www.tchat.io/rooms/scriptchat …

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